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#1 2010-09-28 20:03:54

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Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

Good morning. My name is Wally Rubin and I am the District Manager for Community Board Five. Thank you for the privilege of addressing you today on the topic of 15 Penn Plaza, one of the most important development projects our Board has faced in years.
Community Board Five and its Land Use & Zoning Committee spent considerable time meeting with the applicant and reviewing every available document before we voted 36 to 1 to deny this application.
Obviously, our Board felt very strongly about this application and here are the reasons why:
First, we think that the transportation improvements Vornado has proposed are inadequate. Many of the improvements are ultimately either self-serving or mandated and wholly insufficient for the 474,000 square feet Vornado will receive in exchange. Indeed, as one of our Board members put it, they are akin to Vornado cleaning up its own basement.
Second, Community Board Five is deeply troubled by this applicant's request for a midblock up-zoning, adding yet another 266,000 square feet to a tower that is utterly lacking confirmed details, including building size, height, tenancy, construction timetable or financing plan. The applicant conceded to us that it could be many years – years - before any development scenario might move forward, which entirely demolishes the argument that we should approve this project now as a salve for our current economic troubles.
If the up-zoning were to be granted now, it would remain with the zoning lot permanently, regardless of future development plans or even if the lot is eventually sold. It is ill-advised from a proper planning perspective to approve such an up-zoning without a clear rationale for its request. This up-zoning, just blocks from the Empire State Building, will allow Vornado, or whoever might eventually own this site, to build a building that will change the iconic skyline of New York City forevermore. Such a change must be deeply considered and well thought out, both in terms of its design and, more broadly, its impact on future land use decisions in the immediate area.
Community Board Five is not opposed to development and we recognize that this site is appropriate for a large commercial building. We value the job creation that will result not only during construction but also after the proposed building is complete. But we are also acutely aware of how the area
surrounding Penn Station is poised to undergo enormous development, growth, and change in the coming decade. This means that each individual land use decision will cumulatively contribute to its transformation.
Therefore, we hope that the ladies and gentlemen on this committee and the Council as a whole will join us in asking Vornado to return to the table with their request for a permanent up-zoning when they have a rationale and a final, financed plan in place. Until such time, we urge the Council to join with City Planning, the Moynihan Station Community Advisory Committee and Community Boards Four and Five to begin to outline a Moynihan Station subdistrict zoning plan and a future for this area that is both well-considered and comprehensive.
Thank you for your time.


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#2 2010-10-08 00:57:07

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

FM/TV signals could be in trouble because of 15 Penn Plaza Tower.
A recent article was published stating the obvious fact that the new 15 Penn Plaza building will more than likely disrupt FM and or TV signals from the Empire State Building.  Jim Stagnitto, director of engineering for New York Public Radio, is concerned about both of his FMs at Empire, WNYC(FM) and WQXR(FM). “WQXR is a low-power Class B and will be especially susceptible to multipath in New Jersey. I’m very concerned. And without a predictive study to examine, we really don’t know how bad it could be,† Stagnitto said.

The question is what are they going to do about it?  Can the FCC put a stop the the project because of this or until the find a way to relocate the antennas to a new higher location?


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#3 2010-10-08 05:06:46

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

Oh... new twist. I HOPE that this works out in our favor.


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#4 2010-10-09 02:05:45

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

I encourage everyone to contact the FCC and tell them about this, make sure they are aware of it. its illegal to interfere with a licensed EM spectrum.  unless they move the antenna to the Freedom Tower.


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#5 2010-10-11 12:57:18

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

Doesn't WBAI have an antenna on The Empire Stare Building as well?

Playing the Devil's Advocate here, I see The antenna issue as being a minor setback but not a game-stopper. Considering the money and resources that Vernado has already threw at this project, I would say that they would do whatever it takes to see those towers moved to an appropriate location.


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#6 2010-10-11 13:03:20

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

You are right on both counts.  WBAI does have an antenna there, and it is only a minor set back, being that the Freedom Tower is scheduled to be finished by 2012, companies already have plans in place to move them back to the location of the WTC.  From what I know the top floors are going to be dedicated to the radio/TV stations.


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#7 2010-10-13 00:22:26

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

Sadly, if approved construction interferes with the signal strength in Jersey and West only by physical presence, the FCC has no say. They only have power if it is being interfered with by other EM spectrum (broadcaster, radar, power lines, beacon, etc)

A better bet would be to rally the broadcasters at ESB (including all of Emmis Broadcasting - New York) against the project.

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#8 2010-10-13 00:37:52

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

techDarko wrote:

Sadly, if approved construction interferes with the signal strength in Jersey and West only by physical presence, the FCC has no say. They only have power if it is being interfered with by other EM spectrum (broadcaster, radar, power lines, beacon, etc)

A better bet would be to rally the broadcasters at ESB (including all of Emmis Broadcasting - New York) against the project.

What the fuck are they good for then?


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#9 2010-10-18 18:21:42

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

Amazing how quiet this was done:

http://www.moynihanstation.org/newsite/


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#10 2010-10-19 14:42:42

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

And now it makes sense as to why they did it yesterday:

http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-nj-rail-t … 9105.story


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#11 2010-11-22 18:03:35

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Re: Wally Rubin Testimony at the NYC council subcommittee 8/23/10

I finally managed to get a copy of the NY Times, full page ad from The Empire State Building.  This ad appeared on the same day as the hearings, (Monday August 23, 2010), and is actually a letter to the following council members.

Speaker Christine Quinn,

Deputy Majority Leader Comrie (Consumer Affairs;  Cultural Affairs, Libraries & International Intergroup relations; Finance; Land Use, Chair (Zoning & Franchises); Rules, Privileges & Elections)

Mark S. Weprin, (Land Use, Zoning & Franchises, Chair).

The ad can be found here .


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